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3 steps to how manifestation and decluttering can make you money with Sarah Mac #133

• Caroline Thor - Professional Organizer - KonMari® Consultant

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Are you ready to unlock the wealth you deserve?

Manifestation and decluttering aren’t just buzzwords. They’re powerful tools that can transform your life—and yes, your bank account.

In today’s episode of Living Clutter Free Forever, I’m joined by Sarah Mac, a creative brand strategist and money mentor, as she shares how decluttering your space and your mindset can make you more money. It’s not about working harder—it’s about aligning your energy with your goals. Curious? You should be.

Do you feel stuck in a cycle of overwhelm, constantly battling clutter—physical or mental—while hoping for financial abundance? What if the secret to making more money isn’t found in a new strategy, but in the act of tidying up your life?

Sarah dives into how clearing clutter isn’t just about organizing—it’s about creating space for wealth, abundance, and opportunity to flow into your life. Plus, she reveals how manifesting your ideal life is as simple as decluttering your finances and shifting your mindset. It’s time to declutter your bank statement, your space, and your mind, and make room for the success you deserve.

Tune in and discover:

  • Why organization isn’t just about tidying, it’s about transforming your financial reality.
  • How the KonMari Method can help you create a clear path to wealth and abundance.
  • Simple steps to start manifesting your dream life, one decluttered item at a time.

Are you ready to make money from the energy you put into tidying? The steps are waiting for you.

Listen now and take the first step toward organizing your life—and your wealth.
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Sarah's podcast Creative Magic Club

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Speaker 1:

Hi there, I'm Caroline Thor, professional organiser, konmari consultant, teacher and mum of three. I started off my life as a mum feeling overwhelmed, disorganised and desperately trying to carve out some time for me amongst the nappies, chaos and clutter. One day, one small book called the Life-Changing Magic of Tidying changed everything and I began to learn strategies for making everyday life easier. Today, I have the systems in place that means life can throw almost anything at me, and I want to share them with you. If you're an overwhelmed mum struggling to keep it together, then this is the podcast for you. Grab a coffee and settle in for a quick chat with someone who gets your reality. Hello and welcome back to the Living Clutter-Free Forever podcast. I'm your host, caroline, and today I'm being joined by a guest, sarah.

Speaker 1:

It seems to be the season of guests at the moment.

Speaker 1:

You clearly loved my episode last week with Walt about how to organize when you can't see, and today is a complete change of tack, because Sarah is a creative brand strategist and money mentor for creative entrepreneurs who want six-figure years without being glued to their laptops and while living a life where health, adventure and creativity are a priority.

Speaker 1:

So you're probably thinking well, why on earth would you have her on your podcast, but we are in a season now where all of us are feeling the pinch. Money is such an issue for lots of people at the moment, and I thought, talking to someone who really has an insight into money mindset how we can use manifestation to create the wealth that we would love in our lives, and I'm always talking about how decluttering and organizing is going to make you money and save you money in the long run. So enjoy this conversation. I know you're going to love it. Sarah, welcome and thank you so much for joining me today. Hi, thank you so much for having me. It's so nice to have another British accent then yeah, still, I, still, I still got the British.

Speaker 2:

It's definitely like been more things since I left England. But okay.

Speaker 1:

So with that in mind that you left England, tell us a little bit about yourself so, originally from the UK, I left England in 2008.

Speaker 2:

I lived in Canada on and off for about 10 years, became an entrepreneur. Well, I worked in the film industry and I had a giant burnout slash, health crisis, switched careers, became an entrepreneur, became a freelance writer, traveled the world to 18 countries, emigrated fully to Canada, then followed my now husband to the US, so I live in LA now. We lived in New York for a few years. Yeah, I've been all over. I love to travel, but I'm kind of more in my settling down phase at the moment and just really enjoying having a home and not having to pack up all my things and move them across the country from month to month. And I'm also a writer. I'm about to self-publish my first book, the Six Figure Creative, which is about healing your relationship with money to do more of the work that you love. And I've been an entrepreneur for close to 10 years now, helping creative entrepreneurs creative entrepreneurs, coaches, healers who sell coaching programs online through creative social media strategy and lots and lots of money.

Speaker 1:

Mind that work so people listening are probably thinking, wow, that sounds all very exciting and 18 countries, and imagine moving that off. We could do a whole podcast about how you moved with all your stuff. That would be interesting, co-organization. But people who are listening are perhaps wondering what on earth has this all got to do with organization then? But I feel really strongly that organization has got so much more to do than just the physical stuff that actually is sort of the end result of everything that's gone before. So today we're going to talk about money, which I have never talked about on my podcast before. So this is going to be absolutely fascinating, and then we're going to morph a little bit into some manifestation and how that can help us with our decluttering as well. So let's start with money. What are the biggest sort of mind blocks that people have when it comes to money?

Speaker 2:

I love talking about money because I mean, I don't know whether you know about Randas the spiritual teacher, but he has this quote that something like you think you're spiritually a ball, go home and spend a weekend with your families, and that kind of speaks to how our closest relationships are often our most challenging and our most they bring out our biggest emotional reaction, right, and so I feel like obviously, as Brits, we weren't raised to really talk about emotion. It's not culturally selfish, it's what we like to do, and I think our relationship with money, beyond our relationship with our family, is something that absolutely is unavoidable in the world that we live in, unless you live in a tree house and grow your own food, right Like we're in relationship with money every single day. It's so intrinsically connected to our survival and therefore it's probably one of our most emotional relationships and we don't talk about it like there's a lot of shame around talking about money, kind of like sex, it's one of those taboo topics and I think you know whether this came from the church, whether this came from the government or people in power who just like didn't want us to talk about things that are really potentially very powerful topics. And culturally, culturally it's kind of we kind of have been shaming each other to like ask how much things cost or ask how much money you make or you know these types of topics are, just it's uncomfortable to have them. And so when I ran into a lot of financial difficulty when I first stepped into entrepreneurship because, you know, suddenly I had to put a price tag on my time and my talents and my skills, and it really brought to my awareness how avoidant I had been in my relationship with money, especially as a creative. I think also it's another community where it's kind of shamed. But you don't want to like be a sellout, right? You want to be in authenticity and integrity with your creative work. And same with the spiritual community.

Speaker 2:

There's just like a lot of social judgments happening around our choices and our conversation connected to money and that made me realize how much I had just completely been avoiding it. I hadn't really built any kind of like financial organization skills. I felt highly, highly, highly uncomfortable talking about and asking for money and I had some really dysfunctional behavior patterns, Like I was a really big overspender when I was a student, you know. I got targeted for credit cards and I was like free money, yay, you know, and got into quite a lot of debt and wasn't really managing it well, and this was just building up, and building up, and building up.

Speaker 2:

And by the time I finished my second degree, my master's degree, which I did in Canada, and, you know, I got a scholarship. For I have to deal with my money now and I have to start paying down the debt that I had built up and really had to start looking at my behavior, why I made certain decisions, why I made my spending decisions, and was it serving me, was it setting me up for a successful future? And that's when I really started to look at my relationship with money. And it was kind of wild the journey that it took me on, because it it got me asking a lot of questions like why don't I feel comfortable talking about money? Why don't I feel comfortable asking for and receiving more?

Speaker 2:

money and what are these emotions that are coming up for me and that really took me on a deep dive into my past and my childhood and my upbringing, and the cultural conversations we're having around money and why, particularly as a woman, particularly as a creative, I felt like I didn't have value and I really had to rewrite a lot of those internal conversations and it turned into this really deep journey of trauma healing work for me, which was very intense, like very deep, but it radically changed my life and my health and my wellbeing and, you know, I started my dream business and just was able to really build more of a life that I loved and that I felt authentically represented, who I am and my values, because money was no longer something that was holding me back.

Speaker 2:

And I think you know that's what happens when we don't talk about something and we don't look at something. It is restricting us, you know, and there's so much more that becomes possible when we just get into more of a healthy, you know, consistent relationship with money, which is something that just you know it does give us power in the world we live in.

Speaker 1:

I love how you explain that and I love that you have sort of faced up to what you needed to face up to, because I see so often when I'm working with people in their homes and this was me as well before I discovered the Kolmari method we will open drawers and there are piles of unopened letters from the bank.

Speaker 1:

I was exactly like this, burying my head in the sand. If I don't open it, it doesn't exist. And I had absolutely no idea from one month to the other how much was on my bank account, to the point that I actually had a couple of occasions where I went to pay in the supermarket and they wouldn't take my card because it had basically reached its limit, and I was like, ah, okay, this is a bit embarrassing. So the organization side of finances, of paperwork, all that sort of thing, I think, is something that people do need to face up to, because it gives you peace of mind, doesn't it? You know in the back of your head that you haven't dealt with it and it's nagging you, but if you don't face up to it, it's just going to continually haunt you.

Speaker 2:

Really yeah, and it's so connected to organization, right, and I write about this in my book because you know, obviously I talk about money, role models a lot. Then, looking at what I learned as a child around money and like the emotional tension that I picked up from my parents and the conversations that they were having and the behaviors that I saw them modeling and the things that they taught me, you know, consciously or unconsciously, and when I realized how much of our behavior is inherited, when I really started diving into mindset work, our thought patterns are literally inherited from our parents and our grandparents and our grandparents before that, because 90% of our thoughts are repeated from the day before. So unless you're actively doing mindset work and you're actively examining, like, what are my thoughts and are these supportive to me or do I want to create better ones that maybe weren't taught to me when I was growing up, which is really the work required if we want to live a life that looks different from previous generation of our family. And it made me realize how, you know, so many previous generations of our family have lived through like actual scarcity, you know, like they've been like my Nana. She was from Germany. She fled Germany to the UK because of the Second World War. She met my grandpa and she used to tell me and my cousins stories about how sometimes she didn't have enough food to eat and all they had were like the crust of a piece of bread. And that kind of scarcity was passed down to us and she used to, you know, make it a rule that everyone no one could beat the table until you finish every single thing on your plate.

Speaker 2:

And so that mindset and that behavior was passed down to my dad and he had some pretty intense hoarding um, and he, you know he, had real fear around throwing things away because there was this scarcity of what if we don't have enough? What if, if I get rid of this, there won't be more. And I realized that I had inherited a bit of that as well, like I never leave the house without. And I realized I went through a a period of writing down my dreams and examining my dreams, because they tell us a lot about our unconscious emotional pattern, and I noticed that I was having nightmares about running out of food. So I think a lot of us kind of carry these survival patterns within us, deeply in our unconscious, even though a lot of us don't live in reality anymore, you know, like I don't, hopefully, have to worry about running out of food and it's.

Speaker 2:

You know, when we examine that and when we actually shift our thought pattern and shift our emotional patterns, which are really the things that are driving us every day, then we're able to take advantage of the opportunities that are driving us every day, then we're able to take advantage of the opportunities that are available to us. Now, you know, and that's really what it took for me. So that's really the power of Mindset Work and why I think it's so important to do it every day. Because if you, you know, like, if you think about how many of your thoughts are repeated, how many of them have come from your parents and your grandparents, you know, I think people always say they see themselves turning into their parents as they get older.

Speaker 2:

I do believe that's a choice and obviously, you know, our family path has done so many wonderful things to us as well and we get to keep the good bit. But the bits that cause us stress or tension, or the things that we see in our behavior, that we have learned or that we just haven't built a different skill set around, you know, we have the power to change that. We have the power to create something different when we're willing to look at what's actually driving our behavior, what's driving those kind of like unconscious choices that we're making, when we're not really being intentional about the choices that we're making.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think very often as well, people haven't really thought about what their priorities are or what they would like their priorities to be, and therefore they're not sort of ensuring that their use of money is allowing them to do the things that they actually want to. I had a real wake-up call when I was 25. My first marriage broke up and I took on the house with the mortgage and everything on my own and we bought the house on two salaries. So suddenly I was like really, really stretched and I would get a 50 pound note out of the bank on the first day of the month and that would have to last me for food, like any social stuff which, when you're 25, you want to be going out and doing stuff. It was such a wake-up call for me that I could live on such a small amount of money for a month. I mean, this was years ago now, so £50 went a lot further, but it really was a wake-up call and it made me realize that I'd been spending money on because it was available.

Speaker 1:

I'd been spending money on things that actually weren't a priority. So my priority that time was my health. I was saying I can't afford to go to the gym or I can't afford to have a personal trainer or all the rest of it. I could have done prior to the marriage breaking up, but I was spending money on things that we didn't really need, that were sort of frivolous luxuries, and I think this is a lot of the problem that people are spending money and we're recording this the week of Black Friday and it really scares me that people get sort of pulled into this advertising aurora and end up buying things that they don't really need, and it makes me really sad because if they invested the money in working with someone like you or buying a program to support them with something to help them with an area that they're struggling with, they would end up making or having so much more money in the long run and so much more success at what they want their priorities to be. But it just doesn't happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think that was one of my biggest lessons, when I really started to look at my money, because, you know, I've worked with so many people on this and, um, one of the exercises that kind of comes up again and again is to actually go through your bank account and look, you know, line by line, what am I spending my money on? And it also, you know, and to ask yourself like is like, what does this say about me, first and foremost? You know, and I think when you actually categorize up all of the things that you're spending on, that gives you an accurate reflection of the things that you are actually valuing in your day-to-day life. And so it's great to do that exercise and to ask yourself you know, if I continue to spend my money in this way, because you work hard for your money, right, you know? So it's not just your money, it's your time and your energy and your life that you are investing in the things that you are spending money on. So it gives you kind of a clear picture of where you're going. You know, are you spending money on things that are going to move you in the direction of a life that you really enjoy and that you really desire and it's so personal, you know, and obviously that's going to change from phase to phase in your life, whether you have young kids, whether you are single, whether you, you know, are spending time with your extended family, whether you're buying a home and building a home. So it's a really great exercise, you know, with like no judgment, no shame, but just to look like are the things that I'm spending money on bringing me joy? Are they kind of like your? You know your decluttering method.

Speaker 2:

I think you can probably apply very similar principles to your finances, like is it investing in my health for the future? Is it investing in memories with my family? Because, yeah, all the while you're having to work for more money, that's time you're not spending doing the other thing that you enjoy in life. And I think it's so easy to get stuck into the golden hand cast. And you know, and I know you just said, when it my myself, when I was working in film, I would work really, really long hours.

Speaker 2:

I was getting paid what felt like a lot of money for me in the beginning of my career in my early 20s, and there was this like I felt like I was giving so much to my career that when I was not working, I felt like I had to spend money to like really feel the reward of the work that I had been putting in.

Speaker 2:

And I kind of see that in my partner now.

Speaker 2:

He has a really intense career, he's an adopter, but he has, and you know, it's like when you have such little time off, you feel like you need to make the most of it.

Speaker 2:

And I kind of used to be like that until I shifted my career where, you know, I had much more freedom and flexibility and was much more intentional about the things that I'm choosing to pour my time and energy into, with things actually really deeply fulfill me.

Speaker 2:

And so it was interesting to me how I noticed yeah, like my investment obviously shifted and I was getting so much more reward and fulfillment in the way that I'm spending my money and growing my education, my health, my business, my imprint, imprint my creative work that my desire to go and like, have a big splash and, like you know, buy a really expensive vacation or really expensive clothes, kind of like, went away. So it's just interesting. You know, our bank account statement is really a reflection of that data of where do we, where are we funding money and is it in alignment with what we really value and is it actually moving us closer towards a life that better and that's improved and feel more authentic to who we are and how we want to live, or is it kind of keeping us in this like golden handcuff type situation that you know maybe isn't satisfying?

Speaker 1:

This is brilliant because it ties in to the KonMari method, for two reasons. One, we've talked often on this podcast, or I've talked often about decluttering our calendar. So we're not saying yes to everything, like what are our priorities, what brings us joy, what do we want to be doing with our time. So this is sort of like by going through your bank account. It's a bit like decluttering your calendar. You're now going okay, what am I wanting to intentionally spend my money on?

Speaker 1:

And the whole start of the KonMari method is to visualize your ideal lifestyle, like in minute detail how do you want to live, how do you want to feel, how do you want your spaces to support you so that you can live your ideal lifestyle? But it also comes down to things like how you organize your money, how you organize your time, everything. So that is such a great tip. I love that. I hope that people will go away having listened to this and do that. I know I'm going to, because that is a really great one. So if we know that perhaps we want to, let's say we want to be healthier. That's our goal and we want to ensure that the money we're spending perhaps goes towards that, how can manifestation help us achieve our goal with that of being a healthier version of ourselves.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so, and it's interesting actually, because it was my journey with healing my burnout and having awful health and really not having answers. And you know I was. I had chronic fatigue for five years, so it was one of those situations where I was like, will I even get better? And it was discovering mindset, work and, you know, shifting to focus on like I will be better and choosing to take whatever actions I could within my powers and really not stopping until I got there, going through that process of having really, really, really terrible health. You know, making a lot of changes, really shifting my mindset, really shifting my self-care, and that showed me I have the power to change anything. And so that lesson, once I'd gone through that, I was like I should apply this to money now, because money is the other area of life, of life causing me stress and causing me strain and pain. So if I can transform my health, what if I can transform my money? And so I applied the exact same principle and, yeah, it really starts with your focus, like you said, like knowing where you want to go, because there's no right answer. Everybody's life is different, everybody's desires are different, and that's really a skill. That was like the number one skill that really helped me was to learn to listen to myself and to learn to pay attention to my emotion, because your emotions are telling you what you're excited about or what you're not excited about. So when you kind of turn up the volume of conversation with yourself through daily meditation, even for five, 10 minutes, you know, through five, 10 minutes of journaling a day, and like actually giving yourself that time to listen to yourself and to look for answers within yourself.

Speaker 2:

There was the book that really changed everything for me was the Artist's Way by Julia Cameron, and she shares a journaling technique where you write for three pages stream of consciousness. It's kind of like a decluttering for your brain, honestly, where you just write every single thought in your head onto the page and you don't stop and you keep going and you keep going and you keep going and what tends to happen is all of those like top of mind worries tend to come up and they go down on the page and once you've kind of got them out, then you start to tune into, like, your inspiration and your desire. And it's a 12 week program and the first time I did that I noticed there was a lot of repetitive ideas coming up, things that I wanted to do. I was like, oh, I want to write more, I want to create more, I want to have more time for my creativity that I hadn't really been giving myself. And there's something so powerful about seeing your desires on the page come up again and again and again You're like, oh, this is here for a reason. What if I just listened to this? What if I took some action on these ideas that I have, that are coming up for me and that, just like changed my whole entire life. Starting to live it in that way and I think it's a great journaling is a great way, or meditation or whatever tool helps you connect to your body, because you're going to listen to those impulses, you know, and if there's pain, you're going to pay attention to it and you're going to be like, well, okay, this pain keeps bothering me, so maybe I should pay some attention to it, maybe I should take one step at a time to just try and find a solution. So I think, once you got kind of clear on what it is that you want, then you can set that as your goal, and I talk about this in my book.

Speaker 2:

I call it the post-it note method, because this is how I doubled my income two years in a row, going from like completely broke massively in debt to doubling my income, replacing my income from my previous career. Within my first year of entrepreneurship I made $25,000. Then I started my copywriting business and the next year I doubled that to $50,000. Then I started my coaching business and I doubled that and I had my first six a year within 13 months of launching that business. And that happened because I started doing this, because I started listening to my ideas and noticing when I have an idea or a hit of inspiration and I take action towards it, things start to work out. You know, shifts start to happen and it was really like a day by day, one step at a time thing. And I also started using vision boards. So once I got clear on my goals, I made my first vision board and you know I write down my income I took.

Speaker 2:

This was when I, when I became an entrepreneur, I went out to Asia that's kind of where I started my business and I was trying to get back to Canada to be with my now husband. We haven't seen each other for like six months, you know. I wasn't quite earning enough money yet. So that was my motivation to earn more money so I could get back to Canada and be with him. And he was moving to New York for medical school. So I knew I wanted to move to New York to be with him. I didn't have a visa, I didn't have a green card. I was terrified about living in a concrete jungle.

Speaker 2:

So on my vision board I put a picture of like New York, this skyline of like a plane ticket, a green card.

Speaker 2:

I also wanted my Canadian residency so I put a picture of that on there.

Speaker 2:

And then I put a picture of this beautiful green garden and like a big bay window because I was like I want a garden, I'm like there must be somewhere with a garden that I can afford to live in in New York.

Speaker 2:

And I put my income goal at the time was $2,000 a month.

Speaker 2:

So I put my bank statement with my income goal on it and it was kind of wild, like because I was at my mom's for a few weeks and I made that vision board.

Speaker 2:

I left it. I think she put it in her asset and I came back a few years later and pretty much everything had come true on that vision board and I noticed that the apartment we ended up moving to in Brooklyn had a big bay window and we were in Crown Heights. It was, you know, a lot of concrete, not that much green space, but we had the one house on the block that had a really overgrown garden, so the view from the bay window was literally all green and I was like, oh my God, I didn't even remember that picture that I put on my vision board. So it just goes to show the power of having a clear vision in the first place, of just setting that for yourself and making a decision on what you actually want, because everyone's different right, like for someone else, their dream of living in New York is probably living in the heart of the East.

Speaker 1:

Village.

Speaker 2:

And they don't care about living in a small apartment in like a giant apartment building, but that's not what I wanted. They don't care about living in a small apartment in like a giant apartment building, but that's not what I wanted. So having a clear goal and then focusing on that goal every day, that's what my code that was for. I would always put my next income goal and just write it down, or having a vision board or some type of visual representation for you to focus on each day. And then listening to yourself, because your reticular activating system in your brain it's kind of like your internal GPS system. So mindset work is essentially plugging in the destination that you want to go to. So you plug in the destination in the morning. You're like I want to make this much money each month, I want my house to look like this, I want my health to be like this. Whatever it is that you want, your brain is going to start to look for clues and opportunities to move you in that direction, because you've kind of primed it for the direction that you want it to go in. So suddenly you're going to notice that post on Instagram that's going to teach you something. You're going to pay attention to that email that popped in to your inbox that gives you an opportunity to learn the skills or to have a teacher or a mentor or perhaps, you know, give you that solution to that problem that you've been experiencing. You're going to notice it and, because you've trained your focus, you're going to take action on it and really that's. You know, that is like just keep putting one foot in front of the other and know that that can radically and drastically change your life within a relatively short period of time.

Speaker 2:

Like I didn't even know what the coaching industry was and then you know, a couple of years before making bigger than my first coaching business. I didn't plan it all out from start to finish, it just went from. I know what I want and I'm just going to stay focused on my goal. I'm going to keep taking action towards it and obviously being willing to do things differently. I think that's the most important thing and, and I think, listening to yourself and paying attention to how you feel, like when something feels like a pull, when it feels exciting, when it feels like a pull, when it feels exciting, when it feels like a yes and it matches up to your vision and to your goal, like make a move on it. You know it wasn't like I used to have that mentality of oh I just need to find that one thing that's going to solve my problem. No, you know, it's like be willing to do absolutely every single thing within your power today until you get to your goal and never give up, and you'll get there eventually.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I totally agree. I've done a lot of what you're talking about myself and it does make such a difference and I try really hard within my membership to do this with people as well that we goal set for the month and then we don't worry about the end, like the end goal. We worry about what's the next little step we need to take to get to our end goal, rather than because I think people are just so quick to throw spaghetti at the wall in the hope that whatever it is they want to achieve is going to work and they're impatient. I think we've become so impatient as a society, um, and just like taking your time and not being in a rush and just like believing that you will get there is actually half the battle, I think, because people don't believe enough that they can do it and that it will work. But if you allow yourself to believe and take those tiny little steps, it's like this morning.

Speaker 1:

I had someone post in my membership and I loved it. She lives in Sweden and she posted. We woke up to snow this morning and I didn't have to look for anything to scrape the car and I knew exactly where my son's winter shoes and coat were to go to school, because we did this a year ago in the membership and I was like amazing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you can make these changes, whether it's to do with money, your health, your environment, whatever it is. So I love it. I love everything you're talking about. I could carry on talking to you for hours, because this is just like right up my street, but unfortunately we haven't got hours, so if people who would like to find out more about you, where can they do that?

Speaker 2:

sarah, you can check out my website with sarahcom um. Check out my podcast where I talk a lot about this specifically, you know, in relation to business um. It's the creative magic club podcast. I also have lots of interviews in there, including an amazing arm, charline, and um. You can find me on instagram at sarah magic fantastic.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. I will put all those links in the show notes so that everyone can find them. And I've so enjoyed talking to you. I've got a funny feeling I'm going to be needing to get you back on in the future, so so watch this space everybody. Thank you, Sarah.

Speaker 2:

More than happy. Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my goodness, I hope you got as much out of that conversation as I did. I loved Sarah's advice to declutter your bank statement, to actually go through your bank statement for a month and look what you are spending money on and see where perhaps you can make some savings, and then you can divert that money to help you reach one of the goals that you absolutely would love to do. I love that she said that power of having a clear vision in the first place is so important. We talk about this all the time how the Kolmari method starts with you visualizing your ideal lifestyle, and I think our talk today has really helped to crystallize that, and so I hope, if you haven't done that already, that's something you will also go back and do.

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All the links from this episode you can find in the show notes. I'm going to be back next week with a really short episode because it's going to be Christmas time and I'm thinking you probably aren't going to have a whole lot of time for listening. So until next time, if you've enjoyed this episode, please send the link to a friend you know would appreciate it, subscribe and leave a review. I look forward to bringing you more organizing tips next time, but if you can't wait until then, you can go to my website or find me on Instagram, at carothorne, or on Facebook at Caroline Organizer. Thanks for listening and I look forward to guiding you on your journey to find your clutter-free ever after.