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How to organize your digital clutter even with ADHD with Shawn Lemon from The Digital Organizer #124

• Caroline Thor - Professional Organizer - KonMari® Consultant

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Is your digital clutter running your life?
Feeling overwhelmed every time you open your email or scroll through your phone?
It’s time to change that.
In this episode, I’m joined by Shawn Lemon, founder of The Digital Organizer, and we’re here to help you take control of your digital chaos—even if ADHD is part of the picture.

We’ll dive deep into digital organization and Shawn’s tried-and-true methods to help you tidy up your inbox, streamline your devices, and reduce that overwhelming sense of clutter that makes focusing so hard.

This isn’t just about organizing files—it’s about finding mental clarity and freeing up your time to focus on what truly matters: your family, your work, and yourself.

ADHD awareness month is the perfect time to finally tackle your digital clutter. Shawn shares powerful, simple strategies—think visual cues, color coding, and other ADHD-friendly tips—that make digital organization less daunting and more doable.

Ready to turn your digital mess into an organized system that works for you? Tune in and learn how small changes can lead to big results.

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Speaker 1:

Hi there, I'm Caroline Thor, professional organiser, konmari consultant, teacher and mum of three. I started off my life as a mum feeling overwhelmed, disorganised and desperately trying to carve out some time for me amongst the nappies, chaos and clutter. One day, one small book called the Life-Changing Magic of Tidying changed everything and I began to learn strategies for making everyday life easier. Today I have the systems in place that means life can throw almost anything at me, and I want to share them with you. If you're an overwhelmed mum struggling to keep it together, then this is the podcast for you. Grab a coffee and settle in for a quick chat with someone who gets your reality. Hi there and welcome back to the Living Clutter-Free Forever podcast.

Speaker 1:

Today I am actually being really selfish. I have got a guest on because I wanted some more advice on something that I have historically really struggled with, and that is digital organisation. I am great with physical clutter, mindset, habit building bring it on. That is my wheelhouse but when it comes to digital organisation, I have found myself rather overwhelmed in the last few years, and it wasn't really until last year that I got a great system set up that is working for me now, but I just felt like it really still could be optimized, and I know a lot of you struggle with digital organization as well. Who hasn't cursed tech because actually something's ending up taking longer because we can't find the thing?

Speaker 1:

So I have invited Sean Lemon, who is the founder of the Digital Organizer, to be a guest with me today. He spent the last 17 years helping individuals and businesses get better at using their technology, and that, for me, was then a no-brainer. I just had to get him on. He believes that the biggest reason people struggle with their tech is because of a lack of understanding of the tools, which isn't really surprising because they're constantly changing as tech advances. And when he's not helping businesses operate more efficiently. Sean loves making pottery, riding motorcycles and spending time with his wife, madeline, and their two-year-old son, nico. So, with no further ado, let's welcome Sean. Sean, thank you so much for joining me today.

Speaker 2:

My goodness, thank you for having me.

Speaker 1:

So whereabouts are you based? I'm obviously here in in very rainy germany today. Where are you?

Speaker 2:

I'm in sunny nashville, tennessee area, specifically franklin, but it's a little suburb oh, sun, that would be.

Speaker 1:

So nice it's been. It's been really rainy all day today, so I could I could do with a bit of sun and would you like to tell everyone a little bit about your business or a bit of background on you and what it is that you do?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the business is called the Digital Organizer and we help people who are just drowning in email, can't find their files, having a hard time figuring out what they're supposed to do today, and just kind of got to-do lists spread out all over the place. Your passwords are a nightmare. It's like when you're really struggling in the digital space, like you may have an organized physical space but a disorganized digital one. We come in and help you get organized so you can find what you're looking for and feel back in the driver's seat of your digital world and feel back in the driver's seat of your digital world.

Speaker 1:

Brilliant, and I personally am someone who has struggled with organizing generally. Everyone who listens to this podcast knows I am naturally incredibly disorganized and it's only through learning about the KonMari method that I found a way to stay organized, and my digital organization has been the bane of my life up until about a year ago. I finally managed to get a handle on it, but I'm someone and you will laugh at this, but I always have written down passwords for everything and, as someone with an online business, I have a lot of passwords um all in this tiny little notebook, have a lot of passwords um all in this tiny little notebook, and my husband has it's driven him crazy because I was always I can't find the notebook. I didn't remember where I'd last left it, then I couldn't find my passwords, and he's like, just store them digitally. I do do that now, but it's taken me a long time to move from paper to digital and I think people of my generation, especially we, didn't grow up with all this digital stuff when we were teenagers.

Speaker 1:

I look at my kids now and it's like second nature. So what do you find your clients are struggling with the most when they come to you?

Speaker 2:

It's usually all of it, but email is very common. It's usually email and files are the two big things. But our email has turned from a communication platform to a marketing platform and they are completely overrun and can't find what they're looking for. And often people will create additional email addresses to try and get a handle on it and say I'm going to use this one for shopping, I'm going to use this one for spam and I'm going to use this one to communicate with people. But the fact is it doesn't work like that.

Speaker 2:

Your ads and just for shopping well, that turns into where you get your receipts and and then your spam ends up getting overrun. And why do you even have it in the first place? But then you still have to check it anyway. And then your one just for personal it starts getting overrun and then you have overlap between them and then just things really keep spiraling out of control and we haven't even hit the work email addresses. So that's a really big pain point. And then the same thing kind of goes for files. It's we have stuff on our computer and then we got a Mac and now there's stuff on iCloud and what's on each. But I also have a Dropbox account and multiple Google accounts, and so it just spreads out all over the place. So it's kind of those two big things and you can actually just hit the repeat button for a whole bunch of other apps as well.

Speaker 1:

I am so feeling you Absolutely so, as I said, about a year ago, I finally got a handle on everything. I got my business email inbox and my personal email inbox down to zero, which I was really proud of. But I've realized it's a bit like everything else in my home If I don't have a system for keeping on top of it, it very quickly spirals out of control again. So talk me through. Let's talk inboxes for a moment. What are good systems for people to be using? So let's say, someone's listening and they've got an inbox of like let's go with's listening and they've got an inbox of like let's go with conservative numbers, 5,000 and something in their inbox. How do they go about organizing that and getting it down to a manageable amount?

Speaker 2:

Well, first off, I would say I don't think you need to do that much organization, because we're in an age where our inboxes are pretty searchable and when you hit those high numbers of 5,000, 10,000, our record is 300,000 in an inbox- yeah, crazy, right, she gasps.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So when you get to these high numbers, we're not scrolling through page after page to try and find what we're looking for. We search, so why are we trying to organize it all? Now there are some specific instances, like a real estate agent, for example. They need to keep track of all of the transactions and the emails, and how are they going to remember who emailed what a part of this specific transaction?

Speaker 2:

There are cases for organization in email, but really what we're only trying to organize in there is the communication. When we get a file that's attached, we need to download that file and put it in a good filing system. People usually don't do that because they don't have a good filing system and they can't find what they're looking for either way, you know there. So they think about email and they're creating this new space. So I would say let's rethink email and think about this as a communication platform.

Speaker 2:

And so this case you know we're getting a whole bunch of emails coming in. We can search for what we're looking for. Let's pick a cutoff date and say you know, whatever's older than 30 days, I'm going to archive this, and if there's an emergency or somebody needs it, they're going to email me again. I'll be able to find it, but let's create a cutoff date and say I'm going to archive everything past this date. Now we have a manageable project that we can get through and we can start unsubscribing from emails that have come in within the last 30 days that we don't want, and I think you should be totally ruthless in your unsubscribing because you can always subscribe again.

Speaker 2:

You can always add yourself to another list, but just let's give yourself a break and just get rid of them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then from there, purge out other stuff, start archiving, and then you're only left with good stuff in your inbox, and then you're just maintaining. From here you see a new subscription come in, you immediately unsubscribe, and that's how you stay on top of your email.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think lots of people don't realize how easy it is to unsubscribe from these mails that come in every week. I know from my email list that I write to every week. There's a thing on the bottom, as there is on every email that goes out that says if you want to unsubscribe because it's a legal requirement.

Speaker 1:

So all you do is just scroll to the bottom of the email, click unsubscribe. Sometimes they'll ask you to just verify that's what you want to do and it's done, and you stop getting emails from that person. Everyone listening. Do not unsubscribe from my email list. This is not what I'm telling you to do, but I'm just using mine as an example, and that's what I did when I went through, because it just made such a difference to the amount of stuff that was landing in my inbox every week.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that's right. We got to slow the tide, because that's when we can't stay on top of our inboxes, because we have too much coming in, and it's usually the marketing emails that are really bogging it down. And so you know if you really truly get value from something and it's helping you. You know you can stay on that, but for the stuff that's just and it's helping you, you can stay on that, but for the stuff that's just, you've gotten used to it. We got to get rid of this.

Speaker 2:

But I want to add something to the unsubscribing, because a lot of people tell me that they've unsubscribed, but it doesn't work. Often the sophisticated marketing companies have a lot of lists that they've added you to, so when you unsubscribe from one, you may still be on 10 other lists. That's why it's really important not to just hit the unsubscribe button and move on. You really need to wait for that page to load and see what else have you been added to, so that you can unsubscribe from all. And this does work. I promise it does.

Speaker 2:

We've brought hundreds and hundreds of clients through our process to actually stay on top of their email, and I have a 20 something year old Gmail account that is perfectly usable, because I've been doing this habit all throughout the life of this email account, so it really does work. You just need to wait a little bit longer, so it'll take you a few seconds longer, but that's why we like doing this 30 day project, or whatever your cutoff date is. It's manageable. Then, from here on out, you see a subscription that's an offender to your inbox and you say no unsubscribe.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That's a really good tip actually to wait and just check what else you're subscribed to and to make sure that you're really unsubscribing from everything that they've added you to. I love that. That's great. And one thing that I do I don't know if it's a good idea or not, but say I get an email from something that I've joined and it has like a login or something, and I know if I do a search I'm going to then have to scroll through all of them to try and find the one that had the login info. I always flag that one so that it is highlighted yellow in my inbox and then, if I've done a search, I can just scroll down, find the one that's highlighted yellow and I know that's the one that's got my login details and that has saved me so much time. That's been a game changer for me.

Speaker 2:

Nice, that's a nice little hack. What I like to do is have a password manager. So I'm in love with this app called 1Pass. Now, just to let you know, I'm not trying to just get you to download one more app, because truly, our viewpoint is we need to get rid of a lot of stuff, but we need the right ones put in place in order to really make our lives easier and our digital lives as friction free as possible. But 1Password is one that I would recommend to anyone hands down and it's a phenomenal app that you can install on your computer and it's integrated with all of your different web browsers.

Speaker 2:

So if you're a Mac user, sometimes you use Safari, or you use Safari on your phone but Chrome on your computer. The password, the sets of saved passwords, sync across all of your devices and browsers. So when I get a new login and I fill that in on the web page, 1password offers to save it automatically and then, if there's a specific login page just for that page that's different than something else, you can actually edit that little login and tell it what the membership login page is versus maybe, the checkout page, because those may be different, and then you don't even have to go back to your email to get anything. I just go to a website and it fills in all of my passwords for me and my two-step verification code. So I never have to get text messages to get into my accounts, which is phenomenal when you're working with a team.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's great. That is really really good. I think my problem is I very often forget what the name of the thing I've joined is. You know, like sometimes if it's a course it has a name, and then I can't remember what it's called in the browser. So I but I know the person I bought it from. So that's. That's because I do have a thing on my computer that saves now digitally all my passwords, and you're right, that is just a game changer as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, sometimes, and so it's. I still occasionally have to go back to email for that, but usually I just edit the title of the login. So it it might be a Kajabi page that I'm logging into, but who's kajabi page? Because I've bought a bunch of different courses. So I need to edit that and I'm going to say you know, caroline thor, and then living clutter free, and so I'll just have a big long title. That way I can search and it can pull it up for me if I need it yeah and sometimes I actually make notes in there as well.

Speaker 2:

So there's a lot of times probably in your notes or in your password application there's a notes section. I'll actually just put it in there because I may not remember. I think of it kind of like contacts. I'm not going to remember this person's name, but I do know that they do roofing and specialty tiles.

Speaker 1:

There you go and then you can always find it, and I think a lot of people are not aware of the fact that the search functionality in all areas of their digital world is just going to make a huge difference. So some people perhaps aren't aware they can search in their emails. Some people perhaps aren't aware that they can search through their files. Just putting like keywords and stuff in it makes a huge difference to being able to locate stuff, which is why, as you say, you don't need an amazing organization system if you're using search functionality all the time.

Speaker 2:

That's right, and it certainly helps to have it, but it's not quite necessary, especially on specific types of platforms. So if we were to bring Google Drive into the conversation, or even Dropbox, a lot of these once you start uploading your content, it knows what's inside of that content, and so it becomes searchable, even PDFs that are images but not actual text. There's two different types of PDFs it's like image-based or text-based, and so the text-based ones are searchable and you can highlight text in it, but not the images. Well, google Drive will run optical character recognition on these documents, so that your pictures of your notes or whatever, become searchable, and so that's why, a lot of times, we like to consolidate all of our files into one specific platform that is suited to our needs. I like Google Drive best, but there are phenomenal choices besides that, and then from there, you've got one place to search and I do like Google because they're great at search, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I use that as well, especially for my businesses. It is phenomenal. Okay, so let's use me as an example, because I know a lot of people listening will relate to my life and my struggle with three kids who are at three different schools and all the emails that I get. So school have sent emails, they've had PDFs attached to them with information for school trips and all the rest of it, and I've downloaded them. What is my best way of then going about organising these and storing them? I use a laptop, but of course, some people are using an iPad or something. How do I best store these so that I can locate them again later? Admittedly, I can do a search, and people now know that they can do that, which is great, but if I wanted to optically look organized, how do I go about doing that?

Speaker 2:

So I would want all of my files consolidated into one place. So for me that's Google Drive Sounds like it is for you too, and inside of Google Drive I have a few sets of folders, and this actually brings up a little download that I'm going to give you as part of just listening to this. So if you're interested in organizing this stuff, then go to the link in the show notes that we'll give you here in a little bit, and I'll give you a whole guide of how to do this, how to decide what platform to go on, and then all of the steps that I'm going to glaze over in this podcast. So you'll want a folder. I have a folder called family, and inside of family I have the different family members, and inside of each one of those there are files specifically related to them.

Speaker 2:

Now, if I had three kids and they were all in school and there's a lot going on I wouldn't put it two or three layers deep.

Speaker 2:

I would just have a folder called school. That would be in my drive, and so I've got a little shortcut on my desktop to my drive, double click on it and I want to see school right there and all of the files that are upcoming, that are still related. That's what needs to be at the very top level, and then I would have a folder inside of that called archive, and so all the stuff that's done. I would put it in there instead, and so that way you have an extremely easy way to find everything related to school and you're only seeing what's upcoming or what's relevant throughout the year, and then when things are done, we don't want it to clutter up our space, so you can either delete it or move it into the archive folder, and this is a concept we love to integrate throughout our entire filing system, which is making it very focused, because a lot of people have ADHD these days or are struggling with focus, and we need to create as focused a file structure as possible so you're not getting distracted.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely, and your digital organization guide is just amazing. I've been lucky enough to already have a look through it, and I'm going to be making sure that everything we have got set up is matching with this, because I loved your naming conventions for your folders. That is what is missing, I think, in our system at at the moment. Can you just tell us a little bit about that, because I thought that was really interesting yeah, so for the files specifically or the folders themselves?

Speaker 2:

for the folders themselves so I like to think about folders as in like a domain or an area of responsibility or something along those lines, where when I'm working on something, say school stuff, and I'm arranging things, I want to see everything that's related to that. If I'm looking at health records, I'm trying to save everything like that. I may want to have a folder called health and inside of health are my different family members, inside of that are the specific records for it, and so it's. I'm not organizing by file type but by the activity in, basically the context, so that everything I need to accomplish that or to look at it or to reference other material, it's all in one place. So we've got things like family or important docs, and important docs may just have the birth certificates and marriage certificates and all of the things immunization records and things that we might need for school. So it's kind of thinking about what will you need all at the same time together. And that translates directly to the physical space of what you're doing with the Karmar method.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because we work predominantly by category, not by room. If we're organizing and as I was going through your guide, I was thinking this just fits beautifully in that we're taking a category and we're creating a folder for it and then within that we can break that down a little bit smaller if we need to, but it just makes it really obvious and very visible. And I love that you mentioned ADHD, because we're recording this at the start of October. The start of October and October is ADHD Awareness Month internationally, which, as someone with two kids with ADHD and highly suspecting that I do as well, seeing as I'm very disorganized I think it's just so important to really make it clear how people with an ADHD diagnosis can make life simpler for themselves, and I know very much that from working with clients and working with my own kids.

Speaker 1:

If it's out of sight, it's out of mind, it's just forgotten. So I have set up systems where I have a lot of folders on my desktop so that I can just very easily see them. I don't, I can't forget that that thing's there and there's things in there that are important. So can we color code things like folders, cause I know visual cues are going to be really helpful. Can you tell us a bit about what, how that's possible?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so, umly, I haven't done this on Windows recently, so I'm not sure about the color coding on Windows. But I can speak directly to Mac and in the online space there's usually color coding, so we can just right-click or, if you're on a Mac, two-finger click on a folder and you can pick a different color, and so we love to help people figure out colors for files. Sometimes they're emails. I actually do color coding in my emails because I have three different accounts that I check and I want to see the color denotes the different account, and then same thing in the calendar. But we can just right click on a folder and choose a color and that way it can stand out for us, and then we just want to create some consistency for that. Now, one of the cool things about Mac is if you right-click on it and choose a color, you can actually rename the colors, so you can assign colors names. So this could be finance related, this could be children or this could be health and things like that, so that they can really stand out a little bit more.

Speaker 2:

I'm doing this in some of my work files. So we have a clients folder and it shows so it's a whole list of clients and we have different people that we pair our clients up with, or different coaches to pair them up with, depending on what they're working on or who they need. So I want to see who is dealing with which client, and so I color code all of them, and so that's all in Google Drive, and so I just right click on it and pick a color. And I also want to see their calendar and see how their work week is stacked up, and so the color that's on the calendar corresponds with the color that I'm using in Google Drive for all of the clients that they're working with. So I can quickly see those two different things, and so it just makes them pop out and makes things a whole lot easier to just hone in on the right thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because when things are visually very clear, then we can't forget about them and we can sort of sort things a lot better. And I think when perhaps you are dealing with an ADHD diagnosis, being able to highlight in a certain colour let's say red things that are urgent, that you can't forget to do because there's a deadline coming up, and that red is going to pop out whether you're in your email or you're on your desktop or in your Google Drive, it's going to help you remember oh, I've got to do that, and then you can change the color of it or move it to somewhere else when it's done. But it's just going to really help you stay on top of that and feel in control of things else when it's done, but it's just going to really help you stay on top of that and feel in control of things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, totally. You know, there's actually a really great feature that is underutilized across the board in email and that's the snooze function.

Speaker 1:

The what.

Speaker 2:

The snooze function.

Speaker 1:

What is the snooze function Sean?

Speaker 2:

So if you go to gmailcom and you log into your account, you click on an email, there's a button up at the top. That's snooze, and you can do this in a lot of different apps. It's coming around to. Most apps have it. I don't think Outlook for Windows has it right now, but Outlook through the web. So if you check your Outlook account online in a web browser, you have it there.

Speaker 2:

But this is actually a key way to stay at inbox zero, because there's a lot of stuff that we need to attend to that isn't for right now, in this moment. It might be for the end of the day, because I'm in the middle of something. I see that that is there, but I don't need to keep being reminded of it all day long. I just needed to pop up in my inbox at four o'clock when I'm wrapping up for the day, or I needed to show up on Thursday morning when I have time set aside in my calendar to do those types of emails or those types of tasks, and so we can snooze something to zero out our inbox so that it appears at the appropriate time and it's no longer in our view, and so this is the way that we really turn our email inbox into something totally usable and visually clear, because we don't have subscriptions coming in, we just have emails from real people.

Speaker 2:

We deal with the emails from the real people immediately and the things that we're not going to handle right now can be snoozed for a time. That is appropriate. Or maybe it gets put in your task list, because we don't actually need it in our email at all. It just needs to be on a task list that we can rely on. But that's kind of like you need some other pieces in play, but I would say snoozing for now is a phenomenal way to really stay on top of things and highlight the stuff that's important. But I do like the color as well, and you can still color certain emails and mark them as important and when they come back they're still going to be marked as red.

Speaker 1:

Oh, how did I not know about this? This sounds like a complete game changer. It was worth getting you on the podcast, just for that, sean.

Speaker 2:

Good, good, good, good. And there's so much stuff that we can do in emails now, like creating templates reminding us if somebody doesn't respond in a certain amount. So it's a lot of times what we'll do is say I'm going to send this, but I need the information back by a certain amount of time in a timeframe. Well, the fact is, most of the people that we're working with are not on top of their email. I've got it under control and it's a great method to communicate with me, but it's not so much for other people. So it's nice to be able to snooze a message that you have sent, to pop back into your inbox so that it reminds you before the deadline to say, hey, just following up on this, Caroline, we've got a podcast coming up. You haven't gotten me this, or whatever. Then I can follow up and say hey, is this here? Let's do this before it turns into a problem. So there's a lot of cool ways that we can use snoozing. By the way, that was not a real example.

Speaker 1:

No, I was actually very on the ball with all your emails.

Speaker 2:

You were yes.

Speaker 1:

I was good I try really hard to be and I do think it's interesting because we were mentioning the ADHD thing and things like breaking things down into manageable tasks and limiting distractions and having notifications. You've just covered a load of things that are going to be so helpful to people, whether they have an adhd diagnosis or not, but certainly those people do. That's just going to be pure gold for them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I'm glad it's one of those things that the technology is being designed to capture your attention and it is making things so much worse and AI is making something so much easier. And then it's also lowering our tolerance for pain and to do things that we don't want to do, because we think that our technology should be able to do it, and the fact is, we have to direct it. We have to tell it what we want and what it should be doing, otherwise it's just creating more clutter. There's this meeting recording app that I love. It's called Fathom, and so many people are using these meeting recorders and then they're coming to us like, okay, I have all these notes Now. It's just kind of making it worse. Now I have one more place to check, and so it's really all of this stuff, you guys, doesn't have to do with the app Snoozing.

Speaker 2:

90, 95% of the email apps that exist out there and if you don't realize, there's more than just Apple Mail and Outlook, there's tons they all have this feature. All of our task managers perform the same core function Dropbox, onedrive, google Drive they all do the same thing. It's about how we use it, and it's about just realizing that we need some sort of a framework to use and then customize to the way we think and the way we work. That then we can rely on and just use that over and over again and stop being tempted by all of the shiny objects that are saying, hey, I can take away your pain. Your pain exists because you don't have a framework.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that's what our mission really is is. Let me take you through a process to realize how this stuff works, so that we can set up something that works for you and you can just keep it simple Save your documents in the same spot. Every time We've gone through, we figured out which one the right, which platform is right for you.

Speaker 1:

you figured out your folder structure with some help from us, and now you can just do it and settle into this becoming automatic and all of this is in your guide, so these very, very lucky people are going to be able to download this and apply this themselves at home, which I think is just such a gift. I am, like self-confessed, not great with digital organization. I've got it sus now and I've got it in a way that works for me, but, having read through your guide, we have some work to do. Still. We need to optimize it. My secret sauce is with things like time management and habits and your physical stuff. I don't have the answers to everything, which is why it was so important to get you on today, cause I know this is something that so so many people are struggling with. So where can they get your amazing guide, sean?

Speaker 2:

Go to the digital organizercom slash living clutter, clutter free. So just think, what podcast are you listening to? Go to thedigitalorganizercom and stick it in there and that'll bring you just a quick landing page that you can put in your name and email address and we'll deliver you that guide and you can just start. You know, read through it. This is actually going to bring a significant other in your household into the process if you choose to try and create a system that works for the whole family, or you can apply it just to yourself.

Speaker 2:

And the cool thing is, once you sign up for that, you'll get a series of emails from me over the next few days and I talk about how to actually execute that email cleanup and unsubscribing and some of those different things. So all of the stuff that we talked about today. I'm going to give you a guide and then I'm going to give you another series of videos just in those emails, and then at that point you'll just get one every Sunday if you choose to stay on the newsletter, which I think you'll find really valuable, but if you don't, you need to unsubscribe because if it's not adding value, get rid of it from your life. And yeah, so the digitalorganizercom slash living clutter free.

Speaker 1:

Brilliant. I will put that link in the show notes. I am now going to have to go online and sign up for it, because I want those emails, sean, I want that support, because this is something I need. So I'm going to delete the one you gave me. I'm going to go and find it online and sign up for it. It has been such a joy talking to you today. I could just keep asking you questions for another hour, but I know that people's attention spans and the amount of time that they have to listen is very limited. So, thank you, thank you and, um, yeah, I hope we can get you back on sometime, because I would love it.

Speaker 1:

This is just. I think we'll have a series sean where we'll have you spread throughout the year doing digital organization for us perfect.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that sounds great. Thank you so much for having me. It's been such a pleasure talking with you and, yeah, I I could go on for hours, so looking forward to coming back.

Speaker 1:

That would be amazing. Thank you so much. Oh, my goodness, how helpful was that. I hope you enjoyed listening to all the amazing tips and advice that Sean had to share. I have had some great takeaways. Who knew that you could snooze on your emails? My mind is blown. It's definitely something I'm going to try and as soon as I get off recording this, I'm going to be hopping to that link that Sean gave us and downloading the guide he has kindly offered, because I want to get those support emails. It sounds really great.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so next time I am going to be revisiting an episode from quite some time ago, but it was so great that I wanted to share some bits of it again to celebrate ADHD awareness month, which ADHD Awareness Month, which is happening internationally in October. So until next time, if you've enjoyed this episode, please send the link to a friend you know would appreciate it, subscribe and leave a review. I look forward to bringing you more organising tips next time, but if you can't wait until then, you can go to my website or find me on instagram, at carothor, or on facebook at carolineorganizer. Thanks for listening and I look forward to guiding you on your journey to find your clutter free ever after.